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USC's dynasty done, so who's next?

Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:04 AM

EUGENE, Ore. -- When the Autzen Stadium PA announcer said, "Bring on the Sun Devils," it got a much bigger roar from the crowd than the final gun which brought an end to Oregon's 24-17 victory over USC a few moments earlier.

Yup, it's hard to believe, but there are bigger fish to fry than the Trojans these days.

Beating a visiting USC team isn't what it used to be. Pete Carroll has won just two of his last five Pac-10 games on the road.

And that doesn't count Stanford's shocking upset of USC at the Coliseum.

So excuse the Ducks and their fans for not going bonkers after beating the Trojans. Following in Stanford's footsteps isn't a big deal unless you're talking about number of Nobel Prize winners on the faculty.

USC's remarkable five-year run is over. Each of the previous five seasons included a Pac-10 championship, a BCS game, at least 11 victories and a final AP ranking within the Top-4.

It was a helluva run. But today the team that was nearly the consensus preseason No. 1 team in the nation is already saddled with two losses and one or two more may lie ahead as rough waters wait.

The defense is still there for the Trojans, but the offense is far less explosive and opportunistic than it has been in recent years, and the special teams aren't. Changes on the coaching staff and injuries could be used as excuses, but none of that is needed. USC's cycle has run its course.

So with the throne room recently vacated, who's the next one to move in?

Will another school have a similar multi-year run? Or will a series of one-year wonders take over for awhile?

LSU is a candidate to establish a period of supremacy, but if Lloyd Carr retires and Les Miles leaves Baton Rouge for Ann Arbor, the Tigers could lose some of their bite.

If that happens, what are Michigan's chances of starting something big?

It would probably be better than Notre Dame's, but less than Ohio State's.

So, what about those Buckeyes? The Gators perhaps? Maybe the Sooners? Is a revolving door more likely?

Or how about these mighty Ducks?

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The teams USC fielded in the 3 year period between 2003 and 2005 were among the best ever, especially the 2004 team. That's obvious.

But the times when one program can run roughshod over the rest of the country year after year are gone - there is just too much talent out there. South Florida, Rutgers, Louisville, West Virginia, Boston College, almost ad infinitum. Where were they 10 years ago? It's a whole new landscape and USC, as talented as they are, are just another piece of it. The most any program can hope for is to be in contention year after year. Before the season started many people conceded the whole 9 yards to USC. Now we might have a BCS NC Bowl of Ohio State v. Boston College. I for one would be rooting for BC.

But who among us could have foreseen this? Not many I would say, but it looks as if this is how it is going to be for the foreseeable future, and that's great.

Ohio State looked great last night against Penn State - they were clearly superior.

On the other hand it would be interesting to see what kind of graduation rate they have. Last I looked OSU had a graduation rate of about 1/3 graduation rate  African-American athletes. In his 2nd semester Greg Oden had a course load consisting of Sociology and History of Rock and Roll, which is rather absurd.
SC was the media darling with questions such as, "Is SC the best college football team ever?"  Les Miles was roundly criticized for questioning the media annointment.  It seems he was right, adn the media was wrong.  Of course it will happen again when a darling team from the West coast makes another run.  Put them in the SEC or Big 12, they would have to compete each week like most other schools.
As with all things are corrections inevitable, nature hates to be out of balance. I think however, that to begin kicking the dirt in to the grave is not only premature but ignorant.  With the monumental loss of personnel and staff over the last few years it is a testament to Coach Carroll that it took this long before they stumbled. Southern Cal is certainly done this year but with the depth of youthful talent already on the field and another world class recruiting class on the horizon I suspect we've not yet seen the last of this dominant program.    
Yeah, the Trojan dynasty is done, but maybe for a year. This is a bit of hype, but the larger point is there is more competition for a limited number of blue-chip recruits and there is more good coaching than ever before in college football. Hence, the parity. This year has been crazy, but I don't see the general theme changing.
  Congratulations, Oregon on a great win.  Regardless of what Tamanaha writes, a win against USC is big.  I guess the Oregon fans storming the field after their victory does not constitute them going "bonkers".
I believe the team that will continue to get better and better has the best coach in the nation.  His name is Jim Tressel.  They buckeyes are doing very well this year, as well as last.  Imagine this team next year with  most of their starters back.
OSU BUCKEYES #1
If you're looking for the next heir to USC's throne, look no further than the PAC-10 and the "upstart" ASU Sun Devils (8-0).  Here is a team that was picked to finish in the middle of the PAC this year and is supposedly "rebuilding" under a first-year coach after the transition from Dirk Koetter to Dennis Erickson.  

If a national title shot is this close in coach Erickson's first year with players that he didn't recruit, imagine the next few years as he further builds this program with his own recruits -- and be sure to note the recent ackowledgement by John Elway's HS senior son Jack that he is looking forward to being a Sun Devil.  In addition, note that ASU is operating under our new Athletic Director, Lisa Love, formerly of USC and the AD that oversaw Pete Carroll's first years at USC.

While Oregon is playing solid ball right now and may or may not be a Top 5 team a week from now after they meet up with ASU, I don't see that same kind of overall program momentum in the Land of the Ducks.  Despite playing late on Saturday nights in the west coast time zones, get used to the Sun Devils appearing as a top tier program for a long time to come.

GO DEVILS!!!
Well if u are speaking of a dynasty then look no farther than gainsville, dont get me wrong they are a heaving a pretty shaky year as we all expected without a defense, but i look foward to at least 3 titles in the next 3 years down in gainsville


Go Gators#1
the program over at usc is all but done they were done when bush and company left  amid all the allegations  bush is facing also pete caroll is getting his just due  remember  i said here first the program will be put on probation in the next 3 years or so  and its about time these crooks get what they deserve some of these players would be getting a pay cut to go to  the pros  we as in ucla owned the little trojans in the 90s they tend to forget all that  so i leave you with that  go bruins
just wondering when USC kicks whomever's butt, will you be the first to say "wow I could have had a V-8"???Jay
USC's dynasty is never over.  count the 11 national championships and 7 heismans and let's talk about programs that continue producing....DYNASTY baby.  of course everything is cyclical...and as far as all the SEC talk, I still cant hear ya talking after SC killed Auburn, killed Oklahoma, in previous years.......etc etc it never ends.  

And what does a dork from Hawaii REALLY know about Dynasties, Tamanaha?!?
It aint over till the fat lady sings. Wait till the end of the season
Duck fans need to shut the HELL up until they win something.


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