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Playoffs? We're talking about playoffs

Posted: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:13 AM

Calls for a playoff system are a constant refrain in the world of college football and they only figure to get louder as this wild 2007 season nears its end.

 

Only two teams will get their shot at that coveted crystal football.  Perhaps a couple more schools will cry foul and contend that they were wrongly denied access to the BCS national championship game.  All the while, others will complain about not receiving invites to the big bowls and fans will quarrel over the matchups and how they were made.

 

A playoff is often mentioned as the logical choice to help resolve these issues.  Of course, there is merit in such a thing.  A postseason bracket of some sort is used in every other corner of sports except a certain subdivision of intercollegiate pigskin.

 

But isn’t that why we love it so much?  And would a playoff actually be less interesting?

 

If an eight-team, four-week process were established, we’d likely see the deletion of these conference championship games that we’ve become quite fond of.  In some corners of the country, we’d be left with co-champions and get well acquainted with obscure tiebreaking procedures.  Neither of those are a lot of fun.

 

Then, when it came around to setting the field, we’d be shoulder pads-deep in controversy relating to the bubble that separates the team seeded eighth and others right behind it.  If you think settling on the top two teams is too difficult (and this season it certainly is), wait until hairs start splitting further down the ladder.  It could get really ugly in those instances, when being relegated to a single bowl game is a consolation prize.

 

Once the matchups got set, there would be tons of excitement and office pools wouldn’t just be the rage in March anymore.  However, think about the teams.  What’s more interesting, competing in the Fiesta Bowl or “the first round?”  And seven teams that started within the bracket would end its season with a loss.  Only one school would head into the offseason happy.

 

Yes, it’s true, that model hasn’t hurt college basketball.  But that’s always been the status quo there.  And although the NCAA Tournament is an absolute monster, the hoops regular season doesn’t compare at all to the gridiron’s.

 

Establishing a college football playoff system would satisfy those seeking a more definitive champion (and an avalanche of additional revenue), but think about the athletes.  Imagine playing for a team that won two postseason games before losing in the semifinals, would that be even remotely comparable to winning the ACC Championship Game and the Orange Bowl?

 

As somebody who prefers the way it was before the Bowl Coalition (which was later replaced by the Bowl Alliance and then the BCS) got involved in 1992, I’m not one to sing the praises of the BCS.  However, I’ve come to the conclusion that moving any further toward some sort of playoff (even if it were just a “plus one”) would be a step in the wrong direction.

 

With what we’ve got currently, we’re treated to all these fascinating moving parts, somehow connected together.  It makes every game important, adding to the wonderful uniqueness of college football.  Maybe we don’t really realize how much fun this all is just because the possibility of something else is always out there.

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Are you worried about the players getting their "feelings hurt" if they make it to the semi-finals and lose?!?!  Ridiculous point of view!
Great article that sheds some light on the fact that College Ball is not just for OUR PLEASURE - but the pleasure and experience of the student athletes.
The BCS is nonsense.  What other sport doesn't have a playoff system other than major college football?  Even the lower tiers in college football have a playoff system.  Let's face it - it's all about money, because the bowl games mean money for teams and conferences.  A playoff system is still going to make money for the schools and for the conferences. Let's see a playoff!
I disagree with this column strongly:

A few responses:

- "8 team, 4-week process" ... you mean, "8 team, 3-week process" ... 8 teams --> 4 teams --> 2 teams

- Conference championship games:
a) Keep them for all teams not in the playoffs ... if a team makes this "final 8", then they are their conference's champion.  If two teams from a conference make it, their performance in the playoffs determines the winner of the conference.  
b) Yeah, we're fond of them, but not to the extent that we would refuse to sacrifice them for the sake of having a more legit national championship.

- "The team who was ranked 9th feels screwed"
Establishing any cutoff point at all for the playoffs, in anything, means that the team on the bubble always feels like they got screwed.  In the current system, teams ranked #3-8 feel screwed.  In a playoff system, all of them have a chance at a national title.  Playoffs minimize the screwing of good football teams who deserve their shot at a title.

-"It makes the March Madness brackets that bring such joy to my office atmosphere less special"
... Boo hoo.  College sports championship systems shouldn't be decided with a view to what makes your otherwise boring life in the office more upbeat, it should be about respecting the hard work and the sacrifice these kids have made to have an outstanding football season, and to give them the opportunity to control their own destiny and become champions.

-"More teams end the season happy in the status quo"
...No they don't.  Don't kid yourself.  They look happy on TV after they win the bowl game for 6th place.  When they go home and watch the national championship on their own TV, they are sad, because they think that, were it not for the whims of some computer, they would be playing for that very title being decided before their eyes.

- "It would generate more money" (unstated assumption: we should eschew the profit motive b/c it's college sports).
... Why?  You could mandate that 80% of revenue generated from making it to the playoffs goes to education spending at the school.  More kids in college, more scholarships, more science labs, better educated U.S. workforce ... need I go on?  Put the "dirty profit motive" to use in a positive way, and you won't have to feel sleazy about "commercializing" college football (as if it isn't incredibly commercialized already!!!)

There is no good argument for the current system.  Let's not even pretend there is.
JT, everyone prefers the "good old days", but times have changed, and this BCS system is more like BS.  We can't go backwords, so we have to move forward and get a "better" system in place.  I like the fact that under the current system, every game is important, but one slip-up, and you are out unless all the teams above you lose, is really no testiment to how good a team is.  For example, USC looks like it is finally gotten things straighten out and deserving of the preseason best team in the nation tag, however, after two losses, it will not get the chance to show that off and instead, lessor teams with inferior schedules like Kansas, Missouri or West Virginia will probably play for the championship.  

Here's my idea:  modeling after the NCAA basketball brackets.  Set-up north, south, east and west divisions.  According to ESPN, there are 12 D-1 conferences.  Eliminate the individual conference championship games, and just have the 12 D-1 conference champs with the best records, and 4 wildcards (based on record, strength of shedule, etc) represented for a 16 team playoffs.  Create an alliance with some lesser bowls (Holiday, Sun, Cotton, etc) with 8 games the first week, 4 games during New Years time (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar & Orange), 2 games the week after(played at neutral pre-season determined NFL site/city), and the BCS championship game after that (rotated among the top 4 BCS Bowls).  

The arguments against my system are that it takes the season into January, and 2 teams end up playing 4 extra games.  However, I think it's worth it ($$-wise) for 16 colleges to play one extra game, 8 colleges to play 2 extra games, 4 colleges to play 3 extra games, and only 2 colleges to play 4 extra games over a two month period to determine a "true" national champion.  

Just like in the NFL, and NBA/NCAA basketball, MLB/NCAA baseball, NHL/NCAA hockey, and all the way down to intramural flag football, the champion is determined in a elimination tournament, usually with the team on the hot streak winning.  Time for the BCS to figure that one out.
Why limit playoffs to 8 teams?  Take out the early season mismatches/tune up games and the month after the season it takes to get to the championship game and there is alot of time for a decent bracket.  To preserve bowl money, they should say were going to have this many bowl games and all sponsors will sign a contract for the number of years there are bowls.  Each year rotate the sponsor up in the bracket where everyone will eventually be the sponsor of the title game.  This eliminates the money factor which is what this is really about.  Keep the polls because it helps us root for the underdog instead of the team that best screws up the BCS stuff.  Put all the conference champions and teams ranked in the top twenty in the brackets.  It is un-American to give somebody a competition when they did not out right win it.
"Hawgwash"  as we saw last night unranked Ark beat #1 LSU - you cannot judge the quality of a team (or how they are playing at the end of the season) by simpley watching them on TV.   Football, of all sports should be about “earning” championships and not just a “pretty boy vote” on who looks good on TV.  Yes the BSC is better than it predecessor, but it is a far cry from an 8 or 16 team playoff.    Those whining about losing the bowls is just more hawgwash.  The bowl system and a playoff system are not mutually exclusive – just setup the brackets and let the bowls bid on the games (open bidding).  For that matter, let the TV networks bid as well – pure open market .   Currently,  we have a system were a few self interested individuals get to chose where the  “pretty boy championship” is played.  Why not let bowls/cities bid on those games?  Who knows, if we had a playoff this year, Kansas City (because of MU and KU) might very well decide to host the Championship game and bid accordingly.  Why should certain cities be “preordained” by the conference gods to host  the championship game.  
Come on people this is America and football is our game.  Do we really want to determine our champion by a “pretty boy” vote that more akin to figure skating than football !!!
So, what's your point exactly?

The reason people want some sort of a playoff is to figure out who's The Best.  Including The Best Team is easier when you select eight instead of just two.

The difference between the current system's 2 and 3 is a world apart from 8 and 9.

Besides, a playoff series would be more meaningful.  I would love to see the likes of USC - did you see them control AZ State?- given a chance to play for The Best.

Also, the likes of Arkansas.  That team played great and was very exciting to watch.

And, how about the rule that only Two Teams from any one conference can participate in the post season bowls?  What happens when you get strong conferences like this year when both the Pac 10 and (The Big 10?) have very strong teams?  How fair is that?

A playoff would be a most entertaining a fair way of selecting The Best College Football Team.

You have provided no real argument against it.

Regards
The system is flawed, no doubt about that. And, while I won't pretend that I understand how it (the "assignment' process) or even the BCS works in its totality, I do know it doesn't or shouldn't take a rocket scientist to tweak a new system. I mean come on, there are  "working'" options to model from, ie. NCAA, NBA....! Simpler systems which takes into consideration individual athleticism, coaching, and overall team ability in order to decipher team national standings and the who's and where's" of championship and bowl games. Get rid of the noise and static of a system that we find ourselves debating even the tiniest of things. For example, one of Don Trella's responses to the blog's author,  "8 team, 4-week process" ... you mean, "8 team, 3-week process" ... 8 teams --> 4 teams --> 2 teams

and yadayadaya.....

Isn't the game supposed to be fun?

You don't want to deny the athletes of a 6-5 team from the joy of winning the Weedeater (indepependence) bowl...that would be horrible.

It seems to me that those with opinions like this have never played organized sports.
    Lighten up everyone and enjoy the game!
    The BCS is a failure and a playoff would be a mistake.  Please don't forget that the young men we are talking about are students (who at least at my alma mater, Florida, do have to attend classes, etc.) so imposing more demands on their time violates the purpose of college.  This season should be proof to you that a playoff cannot determine the "best" team but the team that matched up most consistently, avoided injury and just consistently had the best luck when they needed it.  Is Illinois really a better team than OSU or Auburn better than UF, etc.?
    For those who feel compelled to crown an "official" playoff-determined champion I have to ask why?  Isn't it enough to enjoy the game?  After all it is a game, played by educational institutions, hopefully to teach sportsmanship and the life virtues of doing your best and dusting yourself off after a failure and making a success of yourself in the long haul.  I'm not against winners or having only one winner (I wear Gator colors to work every Friday before a game), but a playoff cannot name the best team in the nation.  That will always be a matter of opinion.  I like being able to argue that my SEC team is better than your Big-10 or PAC-10 team based on nothing more than strength of schedule and Bear Bryant.  You should be able to make a similar argument, but include Touchdown Jesus and Woody Hayes.
    Next we need to cut back the corporate sponsorship and return the sport to being just a sport.
A playoff may or may not be neccessary this year. Should Missouri beat Oklahoma and then W. Virginia there could be no disputing they were the national champions as they would have closed out the season beating #2 Kansas, #9 Oklahoma, and #2 West Virginia in successive games, perhaps an unpresidented feat to win a national title. They would also have beaten highly ranked Illinois who gave #3 Ohio State it's only loss. The feat probably won't happen, but if it does no one could dispute them as National Champions.
The way to preserve the integrity of the regular season, keep the value of the conference championship games, eliminate the unfair bias against non-BCS conferences, and leave intriguing match ups for bowl games can all be accomplished by one very simple rule. The only teams that would be in a playoff are the teams that win their conference's tilte. Everyone else either goes to a bowl game or stays home. Giving the best teams in the NFL a first round bye doesn't seem to hurt them very much, and it's certainly a fitting reward for teams that win the championship of one of the best conferences.
No logical reason for not having playoffs. You can keep the bowls. Top 4 or 5 (Cotton will have to be added when the new Cowboys stadium is completed) will be used for the playoffs, rotating the Championship Game. The other bowls will be just as they are now: for the marginally good teams w/out a title shot.
I am a huge fan of the division 3 playoff system.  They take 32 teams split into 4 regions seeded 1-8 in each region.  They start the playoffs the week after the regular season and play for 5 weeks. I think a similar system could be used in division 1.  Use the current polls and ranking system to make up a 16 team field, with home field advantage in the first round to the top 4 ranked teams (a perk to their fans) and the other 12 teams playing at neutral sites (minor bowls).  The second and third rounds could be played at major bowl sites, followed by the national championship game at a rotating major bowl site.  That's a total of 15 games spread over the playoffs, 11 of which are played at neutral bowl sites.        
The teams that lose in a playoff wouldn't end their season with a loss. Still have the bowl games, just use the playoff system to set them up where an actual 2 teams left can play for the national championship while the other teams are placed into a bowl based on their performance in the tournament ... rather than relying on some stupid computer and stupid humans to make projections.
This year there are 32 bowl games.  Instead of taking December off, start a 32 team playoff.  Five weeks with the championship game in January.  Each playoff game could be held at a bowl site for a total of 31 games.  16-8-4-2-1  You still have the bowls with their sponsors and get the playoff at the same time.  Makes too much sense to me!
why are we letting the media decide who's the best team? How about letting the players decide on the field with a playoff system. That would be a lot more exciting than listening to the screaming heads on tv.
Dude, I also strongly disagree.  You can't possibly think that the hair splitting that goes on now at the number 3 spot would be worse when talking about the 9 and 10 etc. spots.  That's absurd.  I smell a little devil's advocate and I understand where your going, but some of your assumptions about conf champ games and the like are a little off base.  There are already extra games just for money's sake anyway...  Who cares about the teams left out of a playoff.  They would have WAAAAYYY less to gripe about than say a OU team.  Also, to those who think that this year is a fluke, just what out because it is only going to get worse next year, as teams like South Florida and Troy and the like get better and better, and start competing with these big powers who always seem to be overated.  Heck, the preseason poll has become a total joke and could almost be called corrupt...
Oh please, Div1A runs a popularity contest/beauty pagenent when it comes to the "title".  The rest of NCAA football has a playoff system and it works just fine.  Div1A needs to run a 16 team playoff and allow the champion from each of the 11 conferences in.  Then pick the best of the number twos to fill the final 5 slots.  This season the field would include VA Tech, WVA, OSU, OU, UCF, Central Mich, BYU, USC, LSU, FAU, and Hawaii as the champions joined by Kansas (11-1), Georgia (10-2), ASU (10-2), BC (10-3), and Boise State (10-2). Additionally, the bracket would go 8 games to 4 games to 2 games to title game. This would field that would generate tremendous TV shares and lots of excitement to see if Hawaii and Boise could pull off some major upsets. I also think this would really settle things on the field instead of computer, journalists, and coaches playing who should be the Prom King and Queen for the big game.

Next the championship games wouldn't cease either as it would further enhance who gets to go to the playoffs.   Conferences that don't have title games more than likely would pick them up so their number #2 teams didn't get slighted over another number#2 who happened to be in a title game.

Next thing to realize is when a team from a major BCS conference has a year out of this world, when they are not a power house program what happens to them under each system. We will use the SEC as the example for the playoffs. In the SEC if Miss State, Ole Miss, Vandy, or Kentucky wins the SEC with a dominate record, all the coaches, computers, and media claims the conference is down and punishes a program with a break-out season...prime real world example was Wake Forrest last year. They have no shot at a National Championship...also just ask Kansas fans, who only lost 1 game and not shot at playing another one loss team for a title. In a playoff sytem, the little team that did (even if from a major BCS conference) would have a fair shot and chance at winning a national title. In fact this year is a perfect example, under a playoff system a good Hawaii team would have a shot at a title instead of just a big bowl game. We keep hearing what a poor conference and non-conference schedule they have...however when the PAC10 is down and USC's non conference schedule blows they are a favorite for the BCS. Before you argue they played nobody...remember this if Hawaii is so bad why did 3 major programs pay them off not to play them...bet Michigan is regretting that decision.

Lastly, bottom line, the true measuring stick for a championship is a playoff. Div1A is the only exception. All other NCAA sports and Major Pro Sports crown the champion through a playoff. Until Div1A can come to grips with this fact...and it is a fact. Fan polls across serious sports sites have been calling for a playoff for years. Div1A is not much more than a beauty pagent or popularity contest, with the contestants getting uglier and uglier every year as parity spreads through Div1A. This year is not just an abnormality, this is just the start. And thanks for the debating the subject.
I'm a huge fan of a playoff system and this debate is becoming remarkably similar to a political debate of Democrats & Republicans.  What is troubling me is that the overwhelming majority clearly wants a playoff system because it is the right thing to do. what is it going to take to get that done.  The people against a playoff will never change their mind, much like a political party stance.

If the College Presidents or the College ADs will not make the move, then what will it take to pesuade?  Open to ideas; however, just like debating politics it seems futile if the ones in power will not get it done.

Mine is a stance shared by over 90 % of athletes and trust me, the guys out there playing also want a playoff.  No athlete worth his salt wants a trophy that doesn't mean anything.  They want to earn it!!!!



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