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Throw a flag on excessive-celebration rule

Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:35 AM

Fittingly enough, this week’s EXTRA POINTS is a rant about Saturday’s most infamous extra point -- Washington’s 35-yard PAT attempt with two seconds remaining that could have sent the Huskies into overtime with Brigham Young.

 

If you’ve been hiding under a rock or too busy partying in Greenville, here’s how it went down.

 

Washington kicker Ryan Perkins got pushed back 15 yards due to an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty called on quarterback Jake Locker, who tossed the football high into the air and celebrated with his teammates after capping off a dramatic 17-play drive with a 3-yard touchdown run.

 

We’ll never know what would have happened if Perkins’ PAT was attempted from the normal 20-yard distance or if the Huskies would have eventually decided to go for a two-pointer.

 

What we do know is that BYU’s Jan Jorgensen blocked the 35-yarder, preserving a 28-27 Cougar victory, perhaps assisted by a lower trajectory or some other factor associated to the shocking penalty.

 

Something else that’s certain is the realization that this season’s new “point of emphasis” to curb player celebrations has got to go. The NCAA needs to make the proper revision in the offseason and fix this. Much like they’ve done this season after fouling up the timing rules two years ago.

 

Beginning with thunderous booing that rained down at Husky Stadium, referee Larry Farina and his crew have taken plenty of heat.  But they maintain that they were just doing their jobs, following instructions and the rulebook that specifically calls for a flag in that football-tossing situation.

 

That’s simple enough. But it’s so illogical, especially when factored into the particular situation.

 

There were just two measly seconds left. Washington, the Pac-10’s cellar dwellers with its coach sitting on the hottest seat in land, had just scored a dramatic touchdown against the No. 15 team in the nation. Emotions were running high and fun was being had.

 

College football players don’t experience these types of moments on a weekly or even yearly basis. Let them play. Let them decide the game.

 

Aside from the guys in the striped shirts, no one in the entire stadium, including BYU’s sideline or cheering section, would have suggested that Locker be penalized for expressing his joy after tumbling into the end zone.

 

Well … scratch that. Perhaps the supervisor of officials up in the press box would have left a note on the evaluation form, reminding the crew of the NCAA’s silly new emphasis to criminalize celebrations.  However, even in that instance, it would seem likely that the phrase “good no-call” would have been scribbled alongside.

 

Farina has been called into question before and was actually removed from “bowl game consideration” by the Pacific 10 Conference last November due to a messy game in which his crew’s indiscretions (along with replay officials) assisted these same Huskies in a losing cause at Oregon State.

 

Yes … believe it or not … Locker was flagged by a Pac-10 crew.

 

And that call could very well come back to haunt the league.

 

BYU came into this week’s action as the nation’s highest-ranked non-BCS team.  These sorts of programs are public enemy No. 1 to the Pac-10, making it that much tougher to place a second league team into the lucrative Bowl Championship Series as an at-large selection.

 

If the Cougars can beat UCLA in Provo next week and close the regular season with a win at Utah, there isn’t much else standing in the way of them locking up a BCS berth.  That’s not good news for the Pac-10, which has struggled to cash in with a second team even when there isn’t a BCS-busting qualifier in the mix.

 

Incredibly, the Pac-10 has had only two at-large selections in the 10 years of the BCS, and none since USC in 2002.  Handicapped by its reputation as a light-traveling league, the Pac-10 needs all the help it can get.  And it didn’t get any on Saturday in Seattle.

 

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What I haven't read or heard from anyone is the fact that Locker took his celebration to his teammates following the penalty.  Now, the officiating crew did call the 15 yarder based on the initial throw, but I seem to recall language from the same rule that prohibits a player from seeking out teammates to celebrate after a touchdown.

ESPN's coverage of this event was so dishonest.  What everyone has to know is ESPN's motive for attempting to discredit a good (not great) road win by a good (not great) BYU team.  BYU and the mountain west have their games broadcast on the Mountain, an obscure cable channel not even available to Dish network customers (like me).  This bias has been obvious through the first two weeks; specifically, while UTAH was beating a less-than-mediocre Michigan football team, the announcers (ESPN homers) couldn't stop singing the praises of the Michigan program while discounting Utah's victory.

ESPN did not show the extended footage of Locker bringing attention to himself and running into the arms of his teaamates to celebrate the touchdown.  had the officials not flagged the initial exhuberant throw, the ensuuing celebration would have certainly drown a flag.

I hate this rule.  I am a BYU fan (4 of my brothers have played for BYU, including in '84).  Frankly, I was disgusted by BYU's defense failing to stop the obvious "empty backfield" QB draw by a running quarterback who was the entire UDub offense.  

Locker is a special player and he made a special play.  The blame has to lie with coaching for not keeping the players grounded in a crucial moment.  The officials do not have discretion to make the call or not make the call.  The call was proper.  It's the rule that needs addressing, not the condct of the officiating crew.
This was such a ridiculous call!  Even though the ball went high into the air, he didn't actually "throw" it.  He had the ball in his hand and "flung" it upwards. I've seen bigger celebrations already this year so why was "this one" called?  This particular referee is either just bad or has something against Washington based on his prior history with them.  Does he blame them for his being bowl ineligible last year?  I can understand penalizing "grenade" type celebrations, but this was simply an outpouring of emotion after a fantastic drive to potentially tie the game at the end!!
I am honestly surprised that no one has actually given credit to BYU for blocking the kick. I didn't see it, so you can call me uninformed, but blocked extra points are quite rare and from what I heard, it was a play where the BYU guy would have blocked it regardless of the distance. I think people are whining because they want Washington to win. The penalty is a red herring. BYU won.
All the talking heads on TV and radio keep telling us why the officials made the wrong call by throwing the flag.  They should be focusing on why the rule should be abolished and leave the officials out of the equation.  Which is exactly what the rule was written to do.  Everyone says consider the emotion of the game.  Now you're putting all of the blame for a good or bad call on the officials.  Do you really expect every officiating crew to determine when there's enough emotion in a game to ignore a clear-cut rule?  If the game was between Podunk U and Mediocre State is the emotion not intense enough to ignore the rule?  The officials did their job.  Blame the rule, not the refs for this one.
Mr.Smith, did you happen to miss the touchdown earlier in that same game where a BYU player who had just scored a touchdown made an "unsportsman like" gesture by throwing the ball between his legs after scoring? According to your interpretations this should have caused a flag also. But, with an official standing right there, there was no flag.
Taunting the other team in celebration is flagrant and should be penalized.  But Locker wasn't taunting, he was just excited.  Should have been A good no call!!!
Let me see if I understand. The coach spends all week getting his playes excited and up for the game.. Then
after a great play one guy show a very small bit of excitement and tosses the ball in the air so he draws a flag and loses the game...  Must be better to keep the players down...  Oh how boring that will be. What will that do to ticket sales.

Put soem definitions in the rule or kill it and fire the officals that let it happen..
They blocked the kick!!! Who cares about the penalty? If blocking a kick from the 35 is soo much easier than fron the 20 than why don't we see more Field Goals blocked? Why??? Becuase it is a hard thing to do. BYU won the game. Touchdown's are only worth 6 points, and Washington needed 7. They needed to execute an extra point and it didn't happen. Who cares about the officials? Give both teams credit for a great game, and credit BYU for making the extra play that gave them the win!
Gee, missed the replay on the Versus Network....If the PAC-10 wants any respect, why do we still have a lousy commissioner hiring lousy referees and putting our games on a lousy network.  Why don't you retire already....Oh I guess you will.  
I guess my problem with the "it's a rule, not a judgement call" argument is that in my opinion, there are far too many judgement call rules in football to try to make this one such a cut and dry, technical issue. What about holding (which could be called on almost every down, if you want to get technical), pass interference (judgement call except in egregious circumstances), or the fair-catch interference rule (even though they got rid of the halo, depending on which side of the return man you are on can affect whether the official flags you for being too close & thus interfering)? Since these are nothing but glorified judgement calls, even though they have specific guidelines outlining when the flag should be thrown, then how can this rule be so concrete in the eyes of the PAC-10 officials?
I like the call actually.  It has certainly gotten the message out to every team across the country.  
There was nothing wrong with this call.  Honestly some of these young men will go on to make millions of dollars to play a game.  Others may not however they all most likely are getting a free education.  

These young men represent half the next educated generation of Americans, and as such should conduct themselves in an adult respectful manner.  Do something good, great, walk off the field and celebrate on the bench.  Don't show off for the cameras like TO or Denise Rodman or the like.  

This rule should be instated in the NFL and enforced this strictly in my opinion.  The lack of professionalism in our country these days is surprising.  

Last but not least, I think baseball players should be ashamed of their sport.  Fighting and arguing and yelling like a bunch of steroid overdosed children.  

How you conduct yourself should reflect in your pay check if you ask me.  As for college students, they are adults.  Don't think otherwise and they do get paid, in the form of an education.  The call was a good one.
LOL! the message certainly got out.

BYU blocked the ball so its all talk.

Washington made a valient effort to get back in the game. IT was not really close as BYU WAS TROUNCING THEM and gave up a critical fumble on the goal line.
Give credit for the huskies make a key drive down the field that change time of possesion and the pt spread.

However, BYU had the edge throughout the entire game. Very potent offense.
Their defense was somewhat inconsistent. Made the block when it counted most...for the win.

Whats worse then the "rule" we are discussing is how BYU was penalized for it in the POLLS.

BYU dropped down 3 spots when in essence should have been improving in the rankings.

Atleast ECU was bumped up though I feel Fresno st got ripped a little as I felt those teams came out as underdogs and showed that they have the ability to win the best.

My opinion is the call was called and both coaches agreed to as why it was called but we all know the rule should be thrown out.
The ref could have ignored it too which would have essentilly let the game go un-noticed. BYU would have won either way.
I liked the fact that it wasn't a blow out. Those games are boring like 59-0 BYU VS UCLA.

UCLA is better then the Washington huskies. Injuries and lack of focus (fumbles) really destroyed their field position and any chance of putting points on the board. Never get behind to BYU or any high scoring offensive team. Their Offense becomes their defense.
The only thing worse than a game with this rule, is a game without this rule.  What we've euphemistically learned to call "celebrating" used to be called bragging, or just being a bad winner. I say keep the rule. Winners need a dose of humility!


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