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MSNBC.com contributor John Tamanaha tackles the hot topics in college football. From title contenders and Heisman hopefuls to coaches on the hot seat and recruiting battles, no issue is out of bounds.



No big shakeup in polls

Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2008 8:00 AM

Immediately following this nomination of Minnesota safety Kyle Theret for “understatement of the season,” we’re back to wrap up Week 9 of the college football season.

 

After the surprising Golden Gophers improved to 7-1 with a 17-6 victory at Purdue on Saturday, Theret said: “It’s really different, especially from last year.”

 

You could say that. Minnesota was 1-11 last season.

 

Another tame one in the Top 10: What happened to those stormy Saturdays that we had come to love and expect? For the second week in a row, we won’t see any major moves in the top half of the polls. The two losses within the AP’s Top 10 were kept in house. No. 7 Oklahoma State lost at No. 1 Texas and No. 10 Ohio State got edged out by No. 3 Penn State Texas Tech and Georgia, ranked at Nos. 8 and 9, respectively, both made cases to move up in the polls. Even the Cowboys proved their merit in the 28-24 loss to the Longhorns. All three of those teams deserve to be rated higher than No. 6 USC, which was less than impressive in its pedestrian 17-10 victory at Arizona, but there isn’t much wiggle room at all this week.

 

Paterno in position: As if the rest of the table wasn’t set well enough, Penn State has a bye this week to prepare for its stretch run. Able to bask in the glow of Saturday’s 13-6 victory at Ohio State for a few extra days, the 9-0 Nittany Lions know that only Iowa, Indiana and Michigan State stand in the way of them finishing undefeated. That slate pales in comparison to what the frontrunners in the SEC and Big 12 will have to deal with for the remainder of the regular season and in their conference championship games. When Penn State takes the field in Iowa City on Nov. 8, there will be no more than two teams with less than two losses in the SEC and only one undefeated team left in the Big 12, giving Joe Paterno a healthy leg up on the rest of the competition in the race to get to Miami for the BCS title game.

 

Comeback Cavs: Here’s to hoping that my 401K bounces back as good as these guys.  Virginia, after reaching a 52-week low following a 31-3 loss Duke, has won four in a row.  The Cavaliers bear absolutely no resemblance to the squad that got crushed, 52-7, in their season opener versus USC and folded two weeks later during a 45-10 loss at UConn.  The turnaround began with a 31-0 rout of Maryland, which is tied with Florida State for the league lead in the ACC’s Atlantic Division. On Saturday, Virginia polished off its second consecutive ranked foe, tracking down No. 18 Georgia Tech from behind, 24-17, in Atlanta.  Al Groh’s stock could be headed to an all-time high if he maintains his current grip on sole possession of first place in the Coastal Division.

 

Contentious cocktail party: The two teams that dropped more than “half a hundred” on defending national champion LSU in October will get together on the first day of November to settle their own score. In what also will serve as an SEC track meet of sorts, the annual grudge match between Florida and Georgia in Jacksonville is virtually the SEC East championship game. The loser also gets left in the dust in the race for the national championship. The winner jets toward the top of the minds of the voters and processors of the computers that determine who gets to play in Miami on Jan. 8.

 

Just a thought: We’re not trying to jinx anybody here, but we just had a Dennis Dixon flashback. With Colt McCoy carrying so much of the load for Texas -- not only did he pass for a career-high 391 yards in Saturday’s win, he also led the Longhorns on the ground with 41 yards rushing on 10 carries -- doesn’t this remind you of the way Dixon was carrying the Oregon Ducks all by his lonesome and leading the race for the Heisman Trophy last November?  Stay healthy Colt.  Maybe mix in a few more handoffs.

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Missouri should move up slightly in the polls (presently 16). There was nothing surprising in their 58 points against Colorado, but was surprising was the "0" Colorado put up against them. Defense hasn't been Mizzou's strongpoint this year; and though CO is not a strong team, it is a step in the right direction. And, oh, yes - KANSAS LOST1
Can anybody BEAT PENN STATE?
The answer to that Christo is no.
Seriously?
Who cant beat Penn State.  THey beat OHio State, the whipping boy of the SEC and USC.  Penn State has beaten no one and will be embarrased in whatever bowl they get to.  
Yes, a lot of people can beat Penn State. Unfortunately, they don't play a real national contender until the championship.
Any team in the top half of the Big 12 and/or SEC can beat Penn State!!!
Texas or Texas Tech could both take care of P-State - they both play tougher schedules and both have good defenses and down right scary offenses.
Will Penn State beat anybody besides an okay Ohio State team?
Most teams in the Big 12 South....and possibly Georgia
Finally, our beloved Red Raiders have not lost a game they should not have.  And now they get to stay home for UT and OK State.  Even if they lose, good play should land them in a January bowl game.
Wreck 'Em!!!!!!
I think Penn state can be handed there ass if the get up against one of 4 big 12 teams that run the spread. Penn St is a good team but they cannot generate enough offense to counter Mizzou, TT, Texas, or OU. Ohio state proved how mediorce they are and Penn proved that they can't play with a High powered offense. I love Joe Pa but i don't honestly think he can grind it out against SEC's Georgia or Florida and I'm damned sure he'll lose a shoot out if it comes to the Big 12
OK I am definitely not a SC homer (I'm a huge Cal fan and hate the trojans), but you are telling me that Georgia that got absolutely whipped by Bama should be rated above USC? And I thought they had good smoke in Berkeley...
Yes...start with Texas...see anybody from Big 12 south...then move to anybody other than the Big 0verrated 10.
Christo, are you serious?  Penn State barely edges out a win against a decent Ohio State team and you're wondering if anybody can beat them?  I guess the rest of the world never got the memo that the Big Ten is the toughest conference in the land.  I'm glad I know that now.
I think the better question is has PENN STATE BEATEN ANYBODY? The best team they've beaten is Ohio State which is a distance second place team in a conference that ranks 4th at best.  Always been a Joe Pa fan but giving him a shot for sentimental reasons is wrong.
Texas can beat Penn State.
"Can anybody BEAT PENN STATE?"
Sure, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State AND Texas Tech.  Put them in the Big 12 South and they and sneak past Baylor.
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It seems this commentator opines that only teams outside of the PAC-10 improve as the season progresses. That said John; I’ll remind you that USC already buried the Buckeyes this year, and they should be ranked ahead of the Trojans? Please! Again, Mr.Tamanaha, demonstrates that he is nothing more than a statistician who knows nothing, or at best very little, about athleticism. Certainly Mr.Tamanaha is consistent in describing USC victories as “least impressive” and “less than impressive” so I’ll assume that he maintains a strong bias against the PAC-10 and California schools and players in particular. It must annoy you John that the best athletes in the country come from California; Long Beach Poly High School alone has placed over forty players in the NFL. Please note that, to my knowledge, there are no players from Texas or Pennsylvania on the Trojan roster and neither Penn State nor John’s beloved Longhorns can say the same of California players on their respective rosters. Ask the coaches who have played against SC John, ask the Virginia or Buckeye staff what they saw, then form your opinions….
Brah.....Penn State keeping it real in the Big Ten...Go Joe Pa......
Several teams can beat Penn State, but they won't play one until January.
Yes, that USC win vs Arizona was lackluster and for  a Trojan (Mr. Tamanaha) to be so critical of the Trojans shows the depth of his knowledge and analytical skills, and an unbiased opinion.


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