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OU or Texas? We already settled that

Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:13 AM

While wondering what Arkansas fans think about Houston Nutt right about now, we’re back to wrestle with the mess that’s left following Week 13 in the college football season.

 

RESULTS SHOULD MATTER MOST:  If Texas’ 45-35 victory over then-No. 1 Oklahoma on Oct. 11 in Dallas on a neutral field doesn’t settle any debate between those two teams, then what does? Any coach in the USA Today Poll ranking the Sooners higher than the Longhorns, should turn in his whistle (Mike Leach probably doesn’t use one, so he can do what he wants).  The wacky lineup comprising the Harris Poll would presumably be more susceptible to employing factors less sturdy than a good ol’ fashion head-to-head meeting, but that group actually produced a bigger gap between the two Big 12 rivals than the coaches last week (2,476-2,375 to 1,322-1,305).  And now after Saturday night’s 65-21 Oklahoma rout over Texas Tech practically removed the Red Raiders from the debate, leaving just the Sooner and Longhorns, we’re hearing increased support for Oklahoma and phrases such as “hot team right now” and “currently playing the best football.”

 

Yes, those descriptions do fit the Sooners well and as we wrote last week, Oklahoma is currently more fearsome than Texas and you’d rather not mess with the Sooners. However, it’s a shame that something as subjective as the BCS rankings will be used if there is a three-way tie in the Big 12 South.  Furthermore, unlike the SEC and ACC, the Big 12 unfortunately doesn’t include a head-to-head component within its BCS three-way tiebreaker, which states that if the top two of the three teams in question are ranked within five-or-fewer spots of each other, the game played between those two top teams determines the participant in the conference championship game. Lack of that stipulation in the fine print could make all the difference in the world next week, especially since the Sooners have more of a chance to further their case on Saturday at Oklahoma State, while the Longhorns spend Thanksgiving with cellar-dweller Texas A&M.

 

All these talking heads on TV can’t have it both ways. They’re constantly pushing for playoff, saying that things should be “settled on the field.”  But then they’re also singing the praises of the Oklahoma and building a case to counteract what took place in the Cotton Bowl at the “Red River Shootout.”  It just doesn’t make sense.

 

BACK TO REGULAR RANKINGS: Although we prefer ranking teams as we did last week, according to who you’d least like to face on a neutral field, the item above illustrates leads us back to a more “traditional” Top 10 with the nebulous criteria we’ve all come to not-know and hate.

 

1 – Alabama (being undefeated -- for now -- has its privileges)

2 – Florida (hey, everybody’s losing to Ole Miss at home these days)

3 – Texas (final seconds in Lubbock still haunt 'Horns)

4 – Oklahoma (could be headed to bowl that will hold their interest)

5 – USC (odd that possible No. 2 team in Pac-10 can be this high)

6 – Texas Tech (consider how close they were to loss to Texas)

7 – Penn State (spread offense went back to being HD vs. Spartans)

8 – Utah (new record for hangovers in Salt Lake City set Sunday)

9 – Ohio State (fifth in a row over Michigan should have asterisk)

10 – Boise State (Humanitarian Bowl getting a helluva team)

 

HEISMAN HOMESTRETCH: One of the newest members of the Heisman Trophy electorate -- along with Tim Tebow -- we’ll be casting a ballot for the first time in a couple weeks.  After all the conference championship games, we’ll decide on somebody for the top of the ticket, but that certainly isn’t clear at the moment. The only thing we’re sure of at this point is that several players who have had outstanding seasons and are deserving of recognition won’t be able to squeeze into the three slots.

 

We’d really like to find room for Iowa running back Shonn Greene, who rushed for 144 yards and two touchdowns in Saturday’s 55-0 romp at Minnesota. He has run for no less than 115 yards in each of the Hawkeyes’ 12 games and finished the 2008 campaign with a school-record 1,729 rushing yards and 17 scores. What’s most amazing about Greene’s accomplishments this season is that he did it all while being the absolute focus of every defense that he lined up against. When you’re coupled with a passing offense that ranks eighth in the Big Ten and 89th nationally, being able to break off an average of 6.2 yards per rushing attempt is quite impressive.

 

LONG WEEKEND OF FOOTBALL: We’re entering Week 14 of the season so it’s about time that the ACC race got squared away. After three muddled months, the Atlantic Division comes down to the Boston College’s home game against Maryland.  The Eagles advance to the ACC title game if they win.  If they don’t, Florida State turns back the clock and gets the nod.  There’s a similar situation in play with the Coastal Division as Virginia Tech needs a victory at home against Virginia to stay alive for another BCS berth.  If the Hokies don’t pull it off, Georgia Tech goes to Tampa under the direction of Paul Johnson, who deserves lots of consideration for Coach of the Year honors.

 

After some solid Thursday and Friday action, the marquee matchups Saturday include: the aforementioned Oklahoma at Oklahoma State “Bedlam” game that’s always a tight affair, Oregon State hosting Oregon in a “Civil War” battle that features the Ducks taking up the fight for USC’s Rose Bowl hopes (although many within the Trojans camp would prefer beginning the New Year in BCS location other than Pasadena), Florida visiting Florida State in a game that people shouldn’t view as a forgone conclusion, and the “Iron Bowl” between Auburn and top-ranked Alabama (which can be viewed as a forgone conclusion).

 

WONDERNG ABOUT WEIS: It’s a good time for Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis to be headed out of town.  But after dropping a home game to Syracuse, arguably the worst team on the schedule (San Diego State pounded UNLV on Saturday to lower the Aztecs’ level of incompetence and possibly give the “honor” to the Orange), the Irish travel to Los Angeles to face USC, the best team on their slate without question. The Trojans, who are still fighting for every style point, aren’t candidates to show Weis any mercy whatsoever.

 

Perhaps the Notre Dame administration isn’t in a forgiving mood either. Losing to woeful Syracuse and its fired-man-walking coach at home represents rock bottom for the Irish, who will drop their 15th game since the start of the 2007 season on Saturday in the Coliseum. If they employ the same criteria used to judge Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham and aren’t troubled by the millions of dollars that will be owed to a fired Weis, the powers that be in South Bend should cut their losses here and start looking for a new leader. Isn’t it crystal clear that Notre Dame should be much further along in the fourth year of any coaching reign?  There simply are no excuses.

 

 

 

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Texas over OU...Please. The red river shootout is a huge rivalry and anything can happen. Texas played better than they are that day. OU showed its superiority by crushing Texas Tech.
A 3 way tie breaker between teams with identical records and who beat each other round robin style CANNOT be decided by head to head matchup, by definition.
If you had any logical consistency then your insistence on ranking Texas ahead of OU would likewise demand that Tech still be ranked above Texas because Tech beat Texas. You can't have selective amnesia when recalling these games.
What it comes down to is which of the results of these 3 round robin games you are you are most willing to ignore. It seems obvious you are willing to ignore Texas's lost and emphasize Texas win.
Lastly, you deplore the current Big 12 3 way tie breaker system as subjective yet you point towards the SEC system as an objective one. Is it not subjective too, as it does use the final human polls to select the top 2 teams from which then head to head match up is emplyed?
Lastly, you seem to deride the frequent use of ranking teams based on their current play ("hot teams") yet is this not the exact thing that is propelling Florida to it's lofty ranking?
Florida lost AT HOME to an average Ole Miss team. Neither OU, Texas, nor Tech's loss was at home to such a mediocre opponent. Yet every sports writer in America labels Florida as the best team in the country.
USC is not the number two team in the PAC-10,. If the Trojans and the Beavers of Oregon State win out they will be Co-Champs. OSU will get the automatic bid to the Rose Bowl because they defeated the Trojans but they will go down as Co-Champions. Additionally, the Trojans will be ranked in the top five of all the polls this week and may climb as high as second or third in the BCS after the inevitable blood-letting in the SEC & Big-Twelve Championship games.

By the way, if I had a vote Oklahoma would be ranked above Texas based on the fact that UT lost to Texas Tech and the Sooners demolished Tech. I know about the head-to-head but that was then. Today Oklahoma looks like the better team.
The Texas/OU argument could be made for Texas/Texas Tech.  So why is Texas more deserving that Tech since tech beat them just a few weeks ago?  
I wish we would just go back to the old system where everyone played everyone in the conference and had no non conference games.  Then you have 3 or 4 extra weeks to have the top teams play each other then could finish a play off with the bowls and maybe add a national championship game.
Your points regarding OU -vs- Texas are very well stated.  OU should be given credit for what they did to Tech, however they should not be given extra credit for running up pints needlessly after the game is clearly over.  Texas could have done the same on several occasions but put in their reserves once it was clear the game was over.  We should remember that these are student athletes, not pros and that the 2nd and 3rd string players should be allowed to play in the games when possible.
Where do you get the ideal they played on a neutral field. They were in the State of Texas when they played. Neutral would have to be defined by playing outside of both Oklahoma and Texas.
Great logic!  So Texas Tech should be ranked ahead of Texas, right?  
Bottom line? Texas convincingly beat Oklahoma....period. Texas should always be ranked higher than Oklahoma for the rest of the season. I say, ask Missouri if they would allow Oklahoma and Texas to play for the big 12 championship. Why not? After-all, Texas hammered Missouri already this season. There better not be any BCS fraud going on if Texas gets ranked below Oklahoma.  
Let me get this straight, you say Texas Tech is out of it because they got stomped...but OU is behind Texas because Texas beat OU?  Hey, didn't Texas Tech beat Texas?  Don't they have one loss now?  Why, by your logic, wouldn't Texas Tech be higher than Texas?!?

Seems to me if TT beat TU, TU beat OU, and OU beat TU then it stands to reason that perhaps we should factor the quality of the win.  Shouldn't OU be ahead?
TTU, OU, TU all have the same record.  If you say that Texas should be ahead of OU, should not Texas Tech be ahead of Texas?  The logic in this arguement is flawed.  There is no right answer.  The "least-worse" method would have to be to look at how they played vs. common opponents.  Texas beat Oklahoma State by 4.  If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State by more than 4 (in Stillwater) wouldn't that count for something?  TTU also needs to still be included in this discussion, as they have the same record as the other two.  Also, the non-conference season should be considered.  Do Florida Atlantic, UTEP, Rice and Arkansas for Texas match up with Chattanooga, #16 Cincinnatti, #14 TCU and Washington?  OU is the better team, lost the Texas game late (in part due to injuries) and the 10 point spread wasn't as bad as it sounds.  Additonally, if you want to make the style points argument, TTU dominated Texas for most of the game until the the end of the 4th quarter.
Remember the three way tie between Texas Tech/Texas/and Oklahoma? You can't just throw out Texas Tech and look at OU/Texas.
So UT's loss to Tech means nothing now? How convenient.

While we're at it, may I suggest that Ole Miss should get to play in the national title game. Afterall, they went to the Swamp and beat the media darlings in their own backyard back in September.
Dude...half the OU defense was out on injury during the OU/Texas game and they knew and took advantage.  No one blames them for that so Duh OU lost.  Play it again and Texas would have their a__ handed to them.
So what you are saying is if OU beat TTU by say 14 points - it would be back to a 3 team conversation.  Head to head would be thrown out the door and non conference schedule and style points would be the determining factors.  Did OU hurt itself by man handling
them like they did?
In using your logic of head to head...does Stoops post game comments not make any sense. If the logic is that Oklahoma can not move ahead of Texas because Texas won against Oklahoma, then You can not denie that same logic and rank Texas ahead of Texas Tech. Rankings are about the entire body of work, not just one game. Your rankings completely conflict your own logic. Florida has the worst loss of all the one loss teams(they lost to a 4 loss team on their own home field) yet you rank them higher than both Texas and Oklahoma. You and other writers are the reason College football is such a mess.
If head to head match ups will decide the rankings then Texas Tech should remain ranked ahead of Texas, both have only one loss, and Texas Tech beat Texas.  You can't apply the head to head rule to Oklahoma and Texas and not to Texas and Texas Tech.
Using  the logic of the first sentence, shouldn't the Texas-Texas Tech game have settled that debate. And if so, shouldn't the OU-Texas Tech game have settle that debate. So where are we, in a loop - LOL. Take the points racked up by each team against the other 2, and the one with  the most, is the best. And that is OU. A 10 point game is close enough to, with a different bounce or 2 have gone another way. But a 40+ point game is just a plain whipping.
That is a rediculous article.  You make it sound as though Texas Tech doesn't deserve to be in the equation as a 1-loss team from the Big 12.

Texas did beat Oklahoma, and Tech beat Texas, and Oklahoma beat Tech, so its really equal from that persective and its rediculous to ignor Texas' loss and give them favor for beating Oklahoma.

In a three way tie, the only way to figure out who REALLY deserves the catbird seat is to look at MARGIN OF VICTORY.  

Texas won by 10 and lost by 6, giving them a net win margin of 4.

Tech won by 6 and lost by 44, giving them a net loss margin of 38.

Oklahoma won by 44 and loss by 10, giving them a net win margin of 34.

If you don't pretend like Texas' loss to Tech should be ignored, and if you rank the three ties equitably by win margins, there is no doubt who comes out on top.
according to your theory Texas should be ahead of OU because results is what matters...yet you dismiss the "results" of Texas' loss to Tech.  You can't have it both ways, if Texas should be ahead of OU because they won head to head, then Texas can't be ahead of Tech...something has to give and OU had the most dominating win of the three head to heads and should represent the Big 12 South.  I'm tired of Texas fans using the head to head argument but self servingly forgeting their loss to Tech.
Head to head doesnt work in a 3 way tie.  Texas Tech beat Texas in case you forgot that.  Why does Texas get a pass in the head to head argument against them?

By the end of the year, OU will have played 6 top 25 teams:

Missouri
Texas Tech
OSU
Cincinnati
TCU
Texas

Texas will have only played 4:  Mizzou, OSU, Texas Tech, OU

OU beat the Big East conference champion: Cincinnati as well as a top 15 TCU team that will finish 2nd behind Utah in the MWC.  Texas played a bunch of scrubs OOC.

OU is ahead of Texas because of the BCS. OU has been hosed by the BCS and may now be helped by it. Either TCU or Cincinnati, both of whom the Sooners blew out, are better than any non-conference opponent of Texas. Mike Leach saw both teams and knows firsthand that OU is better than Texas. OU lost its starting middle linebacker during the Texas game while ahead and did not have a suitable backup ready. Texas did not start running with any success in that game until Ryan Reynolds went out. DeMarco Murray was still gaining confidence in his surgically repaired knee during the Texas game. He showed last night how good he is and what he could have done to Texas if he was 100% at that time. OU is a better team than Texas. They deserve to be ahead of Texas and right now, Sam Bradford, Mel Kiper's #2 best draft-eligible college player, should be the Heisman front-runner
Actually I wondered why Texas and not Texas Tech?
You can say all you want about head-to-head but there is a 3-way tie now.  Texas beat Oklahoma but lost to Tech who lost to the Sooners.  So how can you say that Texas should be ranked above the Sooners based on head-to-head?

If it was just Texas and Oklahoma, sure that would work, but it's not.  The tie breaking component is the BCS and Oklahoma made their case this weekend.  They will have a chance to finish it off next weekend and assure themselves of the Big 12 South Championship.  Oklahoma's only loss was to the then #2 team in the Nation, Texas lost to the #5 team.  All things being equal, Texas should be lower in the standings.

Look for the Sooners to do some damage next week and give themselves a solid chance at the Title this year.
I must have missed all the "talking heads" on TV who are for OU....because the big boys on ESPN Gameday are still promoting Texas over OU...I'm just glad to see the voters are basing their vote on reality and who is playing the best football...if Florida get's a free pass for their loss to Ole Miss, OU should have the same for the loss against Texas...afterall, we didn't break until we lost our MVP of our defense Ryan Reynolds, even then we outplayed them for 3 quarters, so it is not like Texas took it to us on the field!  We had a bad injury, lost the game and have come racing back by playing the best football in the nation...if we win out, we deserve a shot at the national title...
I won't get into the OU/TX debate, but you can't argue not to rank OU higher after seeing where you placed Florida.  The Gators lost at HOME.  Not on a neutral field and not on the road.  It is hypocritical to deny the Sooners the same courtesy as your inflated ranking of Florida is based on their strong play of late- conveniently overlooking what should be a crippling loss.
Hmmm lets see if I get This. Texas played a mostly cupcake non conference schedule this year, like most years. OU played TCU and Cincinati Who will most likely be a conference Champion, OH by the way, They were destroyed as well. They lost to Texas In Dallas Texas on a NEUTRAL field sorta. They also lost there middle linebacker and Momentum in the forth Quarter after whopping on Texas all day and being ahead by as much as 14 points until said forth Quarter. So don't put it forth as Texas was totally domaint in the qame they were the ones who GOT LUCKY in October. I know I watched it all. A kick return got there game on and they won. End of story. What other conference champion did texas  defeat this year.? Hmm. Sooner Fan, you bet I am. The question is do you watch the games or just look at the results on the wire?
Using your logic, Texas Tech should be ranked ahead of Texas. After all, they are both one loss teams and Tech beat Texas. Oh, but the results of the game in Lubbock are conveniently being forgotten. What was that you said about results should matter most?
If Texas and OU was "settled on the field" as you say, then Texas Tech would still be ranked over Texas.  Truth of the matter is that UT did beat OU, but while UT lost to TTech, OU destroyed them.  Advantage OU.
Thanks John!
Finally someone is making some sense about all of this.  I really don't care when or where it was played.  It was decided ON the field.  UT beat OU.....enough said!
USC's getting dissed in this one big time.  No doubt Vegas oddmakers would favor the Trojans over any of the teams ranked above them.  Facts is facts...


Team (NCAA rank Offense/Defense)

Alabama (58th/3rd)- given up 17 TD's

Texas (8th/53rd)-  given up 26 TD's

Florida (18th/9th)- given up 16 TD's

Oklahoma (3rd/56th)- given up 34 TD's

USC (16th/2nd)- given up 10 TD's
TT won on its home field against UT.  OU won on its home field against TT.  UT beat OU on a neutral field.

UT>OU>TT

End of discussion.
Using that logic, any coach in the USA Today Poll ranking the Longhorns higher than the Red Raiders, should turn in his whistle.  It's a THREE-WAY tie.
Why is Florida ranked ahead of OU, Texas, or TT?  They lost AT HOME to an UNRANKED team.  Give me a break SEC lover.
Already settled?  Interesting theory.  But regardless of your opinion (which is terrible), you should of waited until the outcome of next Saturday's game between Oklahoma State and Oklahoma to voice it.  Oklahoma State took Texas to the wire in Austin, and if you have every watched a Bedlam game (which I highly doubt) you would know that anything can happen.  If Oklahoma can win in Stillwater next weekend, they deserve to go to the Big 12 Championship game.  I'll give you the reason, the three teams tied in the Big 12 south have one thing in common.  They have not won on the road.  Texas lost in Lubbock, Tech was beaten in Norman, and the Sooners lost on a neutral field.  This has potential to be the best Bedlam series since the year Barry Sanders won the Heisman for OK State.  

Moral of the story, you have no right to voice this opinion right now when there is still so much football to be played.  
OK, so Oklahoma should ALWAYS be ranked below Texas because of a game that was played in early October?  Why then are you not also insisting that USC should ALWAYS be ranked below Oregon State?  Same old West Coast double standard.  Every year.
John Tamanaha? Who is this guy? I'm disappointed that this is the best NBC can put out there. He should get on some local radio show as an AM 'homer' in Iowa City or Austin. Lame column. Last time I'll click in the direction of your posts. Not worth the time I spent reading or posting. Come on, NBC.
What a dreamer.  The national championship should go to the best team in the country.  Clearly OU is better than tx now.  You have no cred.
Just because they lost last time doesn't mean that OU hasn't improved more than Texas.
I agree with you.  I believe the Longhorns should be rated higher than the Sooners.  The reason...they play each game to win, they play hard and until the last second of the game are in there all the way.  They are a first-class team that has first-class coaches and fans that teach "team spirit" and courtesy to those visiting their field unlike some teams like Texas Tech that tore down the goal posts and had to be bristled off the field three times by the security efforts when there was still time on the clock.  We have to remember these are college kids playing a very competitive game but we still need to be their mentors and provide them encouragement that good things will come from their hard work and efforts but there are guidelines that will have to be followed.  It is not how high the score, not when you played your winning game (early in season versus late), not one game as a shining star but consistentcy throughout the season...and Texas is the best team to represent that tenant.
In regards to OU-Texas already being settled--you really can't use the head to head theory when there is a three way tie.  By using head to head what about Tech?  They beat Texas head to head.  So if your going to say that Texas beat OU they should be ranked higher--Tech beat Texas.  Shouldnt they be in the mix.  Head to Head is out the window in a 3-way tie.  Sorry.
Mr. Tamanaha would have a point if the BCS lineup were chosen by virtue of mid-season results, but that's just not the case. The title game teams will be picked based on where teams stand at the end of the season, which makes sense because some improve and some don't, often because of injuries.
If you go by the theory that texas beat oklahoma and they should remain ahead of oklahoma, even after the pounding they put on tech then you have to put tech ahead of texas based on the same premise. After all tech did beat texas, but with the pounding that ou put on tech, you can not say that that does not count. Maybe Mack would like to play OU in the big 12 championship to see who goes on.
For those of you who want to use the reasoning that Texas should be ranked ahead of Oklahaoma based on Texas's win over Sooners then how do you explain Oregon State not being ranked ahead of USC, Miss not being ranked ahead of Florida, and I don't see another Big Ten school ranked ahead of Penn State.  Head-to-head matchup only seems to apply to Texas-Oklahoma.  Will someone please elighten me?
So your tiebreaker appears to be: eliminate the team who lost the most lopsided game of the 3.  Then head-to-head among the remaining two.  In essence, if Oklahoma had just allowed Tech to remain competitive, and thus themselves viable for the Big 12 South title, OU may still have a chance.  It's a 3 way round robin, and in every sport, that means you must find a tiebreaker other than head-to-head.  Margin of victory in the 3 way series?  OU.  Overall quality of teams beaten?  OU, as TCU and Cinci are far better than anyone the other 2 played.

Frankly, I've yet to find a good argument, other than "Who would want to see that again?," that Florida should be ahead of any of them, even beating Bama.  I mean let's face it, LSU and Georgia are their best wins.  Anyone want to guess the Vegas line if either of those teams played Missouri, the Big 12's 5th best team?

And don't get me started on USC.  the fact they are ahead of undefeated Utah who beat Oregon St. is a complete abdication of logic.
You could use the same argument for Florida.  #2?  Who cares if they're playing better now? They lost to a non-ranked team.  Better turn in your whistle too, John.
It's been a rough year but Arkansas will be better off in the long run without Houston Nutt.  He's burned a lot of bridges in the state.  He was having a hard time recruiting in state and most of the state's recruits we heading out of state.  Even if Nutt had stayed Arkansas was in store for a rough year.  It was also bound to be rough because we were playing so many freshman and because we were switching our type of offense and game plan.  It's been painful this year but give Petrino a little more time and more time to recruit and I think Razorback fans will be happy in the long run.  Nutt happened into a lucky situation at Ole Miss.  He had a lot of talent lined up for him there.  Nutt started pretty well at Arkansas as well with someone else's recruits.  But he's plagued by inconsistency.  He'll have a good year when many aren't expecting it.  But then he'll follow it up with a poor year.  Let's see if that trend follows him to Ole Miss as well.
wow, talk about bias... your logic is retarded. "unfortunatly" we don't have a tie-break rule for teams ranked within 5 BCS positions... that is the dumbest garbage i've ever heard of...  either you let the BCS make the decision, or you don't.  what would make NO sense would be to let the BCS rankings be the qualification for using a rule in the conference, which makes everything that much more confusing while still leaving it ultimatly up to the BCS
oklahoma is the hottest team down the stretch. bet alabama or florida doesn't want to play them right now
Does anybody who happened to witness the "game" last night REALLY think that Texas could handle OU? No one seems to remember that OU led most of the game in Dallas in October until Defensive signal-caller, Captain, and Middle Linebacker Ryan Reynolds left with a knee injury.  It took OU several weeks to find and train his replacement while other teams exploited the weakness on slant passes and screens in Reynolds' area, but Austin Box proved last night that he is more than up to the task.
In addition, everybody seems to have forgotten the FOUR crucial blown calls (3 HORRIBLE personal foul penalties and a disallowed interception in the end zone) which had a huge impact on the outcome. The calls were so bad that the TV crew said so, which is pretty rare.  OU was dead even in yardage with Texas, but when you give a great team like
Texas FOUR extra chances to score, it is tough to overcome.  But, as OU fans, we are used to getting hosed every two or three years by the refs in "NEUTRAL" Dallas TEXAS, we just have to chalk it up to the price you have to pay to play in Dallas every year. OU has had the best offense in the country for weeks, averaging almost 50 points in the FIRST HALF for the past 5 games. Last night, the defense gelled due to outstanding preperation by both the coaches and players. A large group of talking heads, most notibly ESPN'S Mark May, Lou Holtz, Doug Flutie and Lee Corso, all suggested a couple of weeks ago that OU was ranked too high and needed to be voted down in the polls because of a "suspect defense" (the night that OU beat a GOOD Nebraska team that lost in OVERTIME to Tech. OU wins by 34 points, and, due to ESPN pressure, drops from 4th to 6th in the BCS.  To the ESPN crew's credit, they all changed their tune after last night's 44 point rout, which really COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Texas is a great team with a great coaching staff. I hope they play USC in a bowl. Texas will kick butt no matter where they play.  If OU brings their "A" game to Miami, my crystal ball tells me that Stoops and company will bring another crystal ball back to Norman.
Regarding Charlie Weis, I think the guy is a class act, and that is coming from someone who has NEVER liked Notre Dame. Although Notre Dame has the advantage of recruitment of Catholic players, they also have the disadvantage of more stringent academic requirements for admission, and there aren't that many Rhodes Scholors who play football, with the exception of the Florida State player this year.  Remember, Big Twelve coaces Gary Pinkel at Missouri and Mark Mangino at Kansas were "on the hot seat" just two years ago, and both have had pretty good runs since then, including Mangino's Orange Bowl victory last year.


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